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1:59 Yes. We're in the church. 100%. Abraham came with the unscripted message to the world. He told the world a thought that man creates God. He said, no, no, no, no, no. God creates man. Man doesn't create God. It was a revolutionary message. It was also a bit unscripted. Yeah. So we can follow in his footsteps. I love it. Absolutely. And we will. By God's grace, we will continue on. Boy, with what you just said a moment ago, my mind's jumping around and I'm telling my old brain right now, boy, I have to remember that and come back around before we come to the conclusion. But I can't risk that. I want to say this. You just talked about how your family came to this country. I have. In fact, I've had Dennis Brager tell me, Jack, I've never heard a Gentile say what you said. And here's what I said. I said, Dennis, I am so committed to the scriptural record account of God's relationship with Israel and with the Jewish people that I believe that the crafting creation of America, the founding fathers producing documents that almost flirt with inspiration that had never been written before in the history of man.

3:17 All of that's obviously fantastic. I actually believe that God created the United States of America to be, as it were, at the very least a big brother to the future founding of the nation or the reestablishment, I want to say, of the nation of Israel in 1948. I believe that God created the United States of America to be almost a nursery, a protective place for the Jew to come here until the time of Aliyah would be available to them. I believe that America, contrary to Tucker Carlson's pathetic theology, I believe that America has been blessed because how America has treated Israel. I believe that America will be blessed based upon how we treat Israel. But if we disdain or discomfort Israel, it's not so much the politics of it all. It's the heart of God.

4:15 God says regarding Israel, you're touching the apple of my eye. I believe that. And so I hold a radical view. The United States of America has been a place to cradle the rebirth of the nation of Israel. And I think that's why we've got people who, you can say this much more than I, but people like Golda Meir and even Netanyahu himself who spent a great, great, exactly. Their roots are here. So it is an honor to have you with us. It's an honor to be here. I can't thank you enough for hosting me. Oh, my goodness. There's so much in what you said that I'd love to unpack with you. Yeah, let's go. But, well, first of all, I don't think Tucker has theology. I think he has some political notions and you know, he maybe dabbled a little bit in some reading and somebody is probably pushing his buttons. Yeah, there's an incredible, I don't mean to be disparaging of anyone, but you know, the worst combination, the most toxic combination is arrogance and ignorance. You know, there are ignorant people who are humble and there are arrogant people who know a lot.

5:22 But when you've got arrogance and ignorance together, that's the most toxic brew, you know? Well put. So, you know, he should stick to politics and leave theology to yourself and other pastors around the country. In any case, you know, it is, I know that many are trying to escape this now, but when you go back and look at the founding fathers, they were very much rooted in biblical Israel. That's right. And they were looking, I mean, this is a big difference between continental philosophy, political philosophy, and the Dutch, English, American political philosophy. Whereas continental philosophy abandoned scripture, the Dutch influenced the English, and they were the remonstrants at the time. They were very biblically rooted. Absolutely. They influenced, of course, the Glorious Revolution in England, which afterwards was translated here into the United States of Founding Fathers. I'm starting to interrupt, but even before that, remember the Pilgrim Fathers back, they left England and wound up in Holland for a great period of time.

6:31 That was the influence. Exactly. And when you look at the speeches of the pastors who came over on the Arbella, for example. Yes. You know, you're talking about crossing, they saw it as crossing the sea, right? Crossing the ocean was crossing the Red Sea. That's what Sam Adams said. Absolutely. And John Adams wrote to his wife something very similar. And there's an incident about Jefferson coming out of church on Sunday, and he was stopped by someone who said, Mr. Jefferson, I didn't know you attended church on Sundays. And he said, well, for the sake of the future of the United States of America, that's what I'm going to do. that we all have to do that. Because it needed to be rooted, even if he wasn't exactly a card-carrying member of the Bible Society, but it needed to be rooted in those values. The Founding Fathers understood that. So there's this association, this affiliation, which has been grown into the most amazing collaboration that we had over the past year.

7:32 I mean, Pastor, I must tell you this. I saw our pilots and your pilots sitting together for months preparing for Epic Fury. And in the 12-day war in June, you can't just put 200 F-35s in the sky from Israel and 200 F-35s in the sky from America and fly over enemy territory together without one plane coming down. Not a one. And nobody bumped into each other. Well, there was an incident of three American planes in Kuwait. But when we flew together over Iran, you know, it's hard to explain that just with scientific data. It's true. But it takes months of preparation. And there was never this level of collaboration between two armies. And that's because we went together, the United States and Israel, the United States as senior partner. Okay, we may be theologically rooted.

8:26 We must be an older partner. Well, and your technology ain't so bad either. Well, not so bad. But we're the junior partner. We know we're the junior partner. The United States has interests all over the world. We're very local, okay? But we flew together in the most incredible, cooperative and collaborative effort to defeat evil. In history. To defeat evil. You know, there's such a difficulty right now. We spoke before about, you know, wokeism, right? Yeah. One of the ills of wokeism is that there's no such thing as good and evil. There's no objective truth. There's no objective morality, right? There's no objective good. We determined together the depth of this operation against Iran was we were saying, yes, there is such a thing as objective good. There is such a thing as objective morality. And what Iran represents is objective evil, which needs to be defeated. That's what happened on October 7th. Yeah. What is remarkable is the fact that we're hearing more and more that the Persian people, I like to call them the Persian people, who in their history date back, we know this even biblically out of the Old Testament, where Zoroasterism was their religion.

9:34 I was told by someone who's within the movement to bring back the Shah's son. Pahlavi. Reza Pahlavi. That contrary to what the world thinks, that the Iranians are carte blanche Islamic, that that's not the case. Oh, not at all. That there's a fraction, There's a tiny element of them being Muslim or Islamic. They want the yoke of Islam out of their country. Well, they certainly want the yoke of this fundamentalist, extreme version of Islam out of the country. I mean, these mullahs, these ayatollahs, do not represent the people of Iran. It's a very small minority that's represented by them. This is a brutal, barbarian, totalitarian regime that represents perhaps 15 to 20 percent of the people, but with an iron boot on their necks.

10:27 And what they're doing really is exporting this brand of extremism throughout the entire region. I mean, think about it. You know, if you go into the average university, you go to an Islam expert, he'll tell you, no, the big divide is between the Shiites and the Sunnis. It's incorrect. That's right. The big divide is between the fundamentalist extremists and the accommodationists, the moderates. You know, when President Trump, God bless him, gave us the Abraham Accords in 2019, 2020, it was a radical change within the region because it put the UAE Bahrain on the side of moderation. In a sense, and this is something that the great professor of Islam, Bernard Lewis, who fought at Princeton for many years, he always used to say, he says, you know, Islam has not undergone a reformation yet. and the Reformation took place 1,500 years after Jesus.

11:23 We're now 1,500 years after Muhammad. Interesting, right? And what the Reformation within Islam is dealing with is whether or not to accommodate Judeo-Christian civilization or not. Now, if you're a accommodationist, if you're interested in reform, then you're gonna say, well, Islam can now live side by side with Judeo-Christian civilization. But if you're going to be a counter reformer, if you're going to reject accommodationism, you're going to reject moderation led by Iran, what's the first thing you're going to do? You're going to destroy Israel. Because Israel is this Judeo-Christian enclave in the middle of the Middle East. Yeah. A prospering, free, modern state of liberty in a very rough neighborhood. So you have Shiites and Sunnis on either side.

12:19 That's why you have Iran supporting Hamas. Hamas is Sunni, whereas Iran is Shiite. So how does that work out? It works out because they are both, first of all, opposed to the West. They first say we destroy Western civilization. Then we fight out amongst ourselves Sunni Shias. But first we have a common enemy. And that's why Iran is exporting this. Yes. You know, and they're not alone. I mean, Qatar. That's right. Qatar is exporting this form of fundamentalist Islam. They do both, by the way. It's very dubious what they do. Sure. Because, you know, on the one hand, they support the fire department, and then they support the arsonists. Right. They do. Yeah, they support everybody, right? Pouring billions and billions of dollars. You know, one thing I can tell you, having been in Washington now for a year and a half, you know, some of the, we'll call it the Tucker orbit. Wow, what a strange orbit that is.

13:12 You know, Israel, the lobby, the Jewish lobby, the Israel lobby. One thing I can tell you with certainty, we do not control Washington. I mean, I've got an uphill battle all the time, you know. That is so good because so many people will say, oh, the Jews control everything. If that's true, then why isn't it going better for them? Yeah, it could be going a little better for us. Let me tell you, I got my work cut out for us. We don't control anything. But we could never compete with the amount of money that Qatar is pouring into this country. You're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. universities, policy centers. K-12, K-12 education. This is true. Exactly, school books. We don't have any lobbying firm in Washington. Now, they call AIPAC the lobbying firm, but AIPAC is an American Jewish organization that has the right to say. That's what they say, though. They'll label you guys something that you're not just for them to fuel their...

14:06 Qatar has nine lobbying firms in Washington. Paid lobbying firms, nine. Not including Saudis, not including the others. No, no, no, no. We don't have one. And AIPAC is operating in what they believe is the best interest of America. They believe in America first. They just think part of America first is having a strong Israel. Yeah, yeah. Right? Can you be condemned for thinking that? Well, listen, I'm not an AIPAC, but I believe that it's very much in America's interest to have a strong Israel. and I think that relationship has proven in history to be a good one. I have a secret for you. Yes. You're not alone. Yes, amen. Because almost every American administration, some differences, there are variances, but the reason why the United States of America has supported Israel for so many decades, since the Six-Day War, by the way, before the Six-Day War, not so much, when we proved that we could win.

15:01 When you, uh-huh. Right? Yes. So every administration has supported Israel to one degree or another. And as long as we mention the Six-Day War, we're having an associative conversation, right? So can I go off on a tangent here for a minute? There's a great book by the American author, James Mishner. Everybody knows him from the more famous novels he wrote, but there's a little-known novel called The Drifters. And in there, he's got a piece about the Six-Day War. And he says, you know, we're modern people. We don't believe in miracles, right? We don't believe in miracles. So the splitting of the Red Sea, the moon shines on the water. We have scientific explanations for it. The moon, the water, a windy night, something. He says 2,000 years from now, there'll be another generation of pseudo-intellectual liberals that get back to the Six-Day War, and they'll say, gee, how did the sons and daughters of soap and lampshades of Auschwitz defeat 150 million enemies in six days?

15:58 You know, wars... The moon, the wood. No, each day stood for 100 years. Oh gosh. It was really the 600 Years War. You're actually, this is what's gonna happen. You're right, that's what's gonna happen. But think about that for a second. You know, 80 years ago, 20 years before the Six Day War, 1967, we were helpless and hopeless. I mean, you know, Auschwitz, 12,000 being burned a day and nobody gave a damn. That's right. but he stopped it. That's right. 20 years later,

16:34 we're flying, you know, Mirage jets that we hijacked from France and defeating 150 million enemies in six days in a war that begins on Sunday morning and ends Friday afternoon to light the Shabbat candles. Yes. Right? And people don't stop and say, gee, could this have something to do with those dry bones in Ezekiel? Exactly. I mean, you had bones in Auschwitz. Bones. Those were bones. Literal bones. Brother, you're getting into Bible prophecy here that is spot on. And all of a sudden, well, explain it differently. The challenge isn't for those who can identify biblical prophecy. The problem is for those, the challenge is for those who refuse to accept it. That's right. So, I mean, you know, explain that logically, that a people that's exiled from their land for 2,000 years, that's spread to four corners of the earth, That's right. Comes back after Auschwitz, the greatest crime committed by mankind to mankind and loses 1% of its population in 1948 against all odds, creates, recreates, as you so poignantly said before.

17:38 We have to say recreates. Recreates, recreates. And then, you know, people forget three weeks before the Six-Day War when Nasser told the president of Egypt. He told the UN. Sadat, yes? No, no, so that came later. That came later. In 1967, it's Nasser. Gamal Abdel Nasser. Got it. And he tells, in the aftermath of the 56 operation, which was to open the Suez Canal, which we did together with France and Britain, there were UN troops to keep the peace between Egypt and Israel in Sinai. Three weeks before the Six-Day War, Nasser said to the troops, get out. They got out. And he moved 90,000 troops into Sinai. And he was asked on television, three weeks before the Six-Day War, what do you plan to do with 90,000 troops in Sinai? You know what he said? I'm going to turn the Mediterranean red with Jewish blood.

18:32 He announced it. That was his answer. I'm going to turn the Mediterranean red with Jewish blood. And the press probably laughed. And that was even before we had legacy media. Right. But, you know, and then we had a prime minister. His name was Levi Eshkol. He was a lovely grandpa, but he couldn't make a decision about what to do about the garbage collector's strike, the police strike, the teacher strike, and he had to make a decision whether or not to strike first. Yeah, wow. Can you imagine? And he makes that decision. Now, you've got to ask yourself, somebody who was hesitant about all of his prime ministerial decisions suddenly takes a decision to launch a preemptive strike and saves the country and wins the war in six days. Is that, like, not a hidden hand? Right? I mean, when we study economics, we have no problem saying there's a hidden hand. You know, Adam Smith's idea of a hidden hand.

19:28 Well, is there not a hidden hand to history? Isn't it obvious? Well, maybe. Okay, look, I've been a follower of Yeshua for 50 years. So somebody might say, oh, you've been brainwashed. Yes, I have. My brain has been washed of idiocy. And I understand the scripture. and in the book of Amos and Joel or Yoel, is it? Yoel. Backs him up, Amos. He says, once I gather the people into their land again, again, they shall never again be uprooted. He didn't say they'd have no troubles. He said they would never again be uprooted. And I get a lot of pleasure saying that since May 14, 1948, the state of Israel is not going anywhere. And I don't base that on the incredible, awesome might and courage of the IDF or the IAF or the government.

20:26 I say it based upon the promise of God. And it's amazing to go to a land where Mark Twain said something to the effect, what a wasteland. This is ridiculous. It's horrible. Only about 60 years before the state was founded. Yes. It's amazing. You go there today. For one thing, some of the greatest wines in the world are now produced in Israel. But it's so absolutely beautiful that when I show people pictures of Israel where we'll take vast amounts of people on tour of the land and Bible sites, when people take pictures, you would think you're looking at some areas of the Sierra Nevada of California or, you know, Colorado or something. People don't realize. They think it's just a sand pit. It's not that at all. It's absolutely gorgeous, stunning. Why? What's happening? God said that the land was going to be brought back to life. You mentioned Ezekiel. Not only the bones would be standing up, but sinew and flesh would be put on them, that the land would begin to prosper and produce, and that the people would once again breathe.

21:29 He says, I will put my breath in your nostrils. That's reminiscent. Back to life. It's exactly reminiscent of what God did to a clay mound called Adam. He breathed in him the breath of life. And so somebody like Tucker will try to school somebody like a Tim, a Tim, I'm sorry, a Ted Cruz, in his condescending matter, not realizing that, well, you know, are you supposed, are you, are we supposed to support Israel and everything? What is Israel? And the answer, you can, you can ask what, what Canada is or a Canadian or Germany and a German. but Tucker's question, if he would only have gotten a good answer that day, should have really straightened him up. And that is you cannot answer so simply regarding Israel because Abraham, God says, I'm going to bless your descendants. That's those who believed like Abraham believed, but it's even more than that.

22:25 It's the genetic people. It is the promised land. I have to tell you, Mr. Ambassador, one of the great joys I have as a Gentile teacher of the Word of God, I get a lot of pleasure of showing on the screens the geographical location of the land that God promised to Abraham. So for example, Barack Obama said after his Cairo speech, we want to see Israel return back to her pre-67 borders. Immediately from this pulpit, I announced, no, no, no. Why stop at 67? Why go back to 67? Let's keep going. You're saying the Jews have no rights and no existence. Let's keep going. Let's go back. I got to share something. Let's go back to the day that God told Abraham, here's the borders. And when you look at that, it has shut the UN up and anybody else. Because Israel is yet to inhabit its promised borders.

23:21 That day's coming. There's so much I'd love to unpack with you about what you just said. On the issue of borders, I want to go back to water and the greening of the desert. I want to tell you a few things about that. But on this issue of borders, you know, in that interview with Ambassador Huckabee, my esteemed colleague, who I'm so honored to serve with at the same time, and I was asked afterwards when Ambassador Huckabee was attacked over that issue of the borders of Israel. Yep. So if we believe in the Bible, does that mean that Israel should now occupy Jordan and Iraq and Lebanon? You remember when he kind of sarcastically intimated that we're expansionist? Yeah. And I must tell you, I love this discussion about greater Israel. You know, our critics say greater Israel. We're a country, we're always compared to New Jersey.

24:15 Right. But we're not New Jersey because you take out the Negev Desert, right? Yeah. We're more like half of Rhode Island. Okay. And people can't begin to understand just how tiny we are. So you're talking about greater Israel next to, you know, all the countries around us, even Lebanon. I mean, we're a fourth of Lebanon. It's just astounding. But this whole issue of the biblical contours of the land of Israel, the biblical contours, the boundaries of Israel was a revolution. Because it was the first time it was said that only God has an empire over the world. That's right. It limited boundaries. It wasn't meant to expand boundaries. It came and said the denial to the Euphrates meant that you can't go beyond that. That's right. Okay? Exactly right. Not like the Persians and not like the Assyrians and not like the Babylonians. Or the Nazis. Or the Nazis later. Take the world. No. The idea of boundaries in the Bible is a limiting of human capabilities. You have to stop at a certain place because one man or one nation can't ruin the world.

25:17 Only God can ruin the world. That's right. Can run the world. And that was a revolutionary idea. And it was soiled by Tucker. It was absolutely soiled. He soiled the biblical text. But what I want to say about the development of Israel and what you beautifully described as the greeting of the desert and how much we've developed. When I came to Israel in 1978, I came to a dormitory. I went to study rabbinics. And they told me, you have 90 seconds in the shower. I said, 90 seconds in the shower? I come from Scranton, Pennsylvania. We shower. Yeah, spend half the day there. I said, no, we have a shortage of water. And believe it or not, there was this gizmo on the showerhead. Like a governor? That shut off. Yes. After a certain amount of time. So today, Pastor, we are a net water exporter. You're getting me excited here now.

26:10 Okay. In a couple of decades, we went from a water shortage to a net water exporter. We export water to Jordan. We export water to the Palestinian territories. We are a net water exporter. We have no longer a shortage of water. 87% of our industrial water is wastewater that's recycled. 87%. It's the highest in the world. And all of these developments we have, you know what we can do in Africa if everybody would just stop fighting with us? Everybody just stop fighting and let us be and cooperate with us instead of fighting all the time. there are 900 million people that go to sleep every night hungry. We could end food insecurity today. In a five-mile radius of Tel Aviv, you've got all the solutions to food insecurity. What you just said a moment ago, people watching this program right now need to know this loud and clear, and I love what you just said.

27:03 The famines that are in the world, they are political or religious, 100%, based famines. they're not look no one sits around and tries to eat in the middle of the desert you don't live there for a reason but places like ethiopia for example or sudan where there shouldn't be any famine but there are political dan was a breadbasket of africa and now exactly are suffering people say well you know i don't get involved in politics politics that's dirty i don't get involved in that i just believe in god i just can't stand that comment because when i read my bible through Moses, God is the one who invented government. What's happened is people, by politicking it the wrong way, have ruined the construction of government. Government is a sacred institution by God. And you think about how the kings or the leadership that you see throughout scripture. And then you come, you mentioned earlier in our opening about our forefathers. I'm a big fan. I read everything that Sam Adams has ever put out. And I wish Americans would read about Sam Adams because Sam Adams is the one who over and over again mentions the fact that we are going through our Red Sea experience. He said to the Second Continental Congress, he said, wait a minute. God says he's no respecter of persons. He did this for Israel. He delivered them from the yoke of Pharaoh. King George III is our Pharaoh.

28:40 He's going to deliver us. And he gave this tremendous speech, I forget the date of it, but it was impromptu, referencing so many biblical works of God, which inspired the Continental Congress, and they wound up getting the job done. The point is, our source is founded upon the great quotes of John Locke, who wound up quoting scripture. Thomas Jefferson, a lot of people where Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence was lifted from John Locke. Did you know that I wrote my doctorate on John Locke? I didn't know that. You didn't know that? Gosh, I wish I could do that. Here's a little bit of prophecy. Tell me. Tell me. Well, you can get it. It was printed by Cambridge University Press. You can get it on Amazon. You got to take out a mortgage. You have to get that. You got to take out a mortgage because it sells for like $130. But yeah, I wrote a book on John Locke and his use of the Hebrew Bible. But yeah, because in the 17th century, what I was fascinated by was as the divine rights of kings was losing its luster, where did these philosophers look for guidance? I said, hey, there is a book that tells us about what God would choose as governance.

29:51 And this is a little known fact, by the way, but the idea of Washington not being one of the states, that comes from Hugo Grotius, who is the founder of international law, who was a Dutch legal scholar and philosopher who said that the Netherlands should, the capital should not be part of any one of the 12 states. 12 states, like the 12 tribes? Interesting. Why? Because Jerusalem was not divided among the tribes. So all the tribes could feel, it sat in between Benjamin and Judah. The centrality. But everybody should feel that they belong to the capital. Wow. So that's why you have D.C. It's not Maryland or Virginia. That was patterned after Grotius, who patterned after the Hebrew Bible. I love this.

30:44 Absolutely epic. So again, I think, again, all the more. I do believe the founding of America for many other reasons, because you got to think about it, is Egypt in the Bible. Of course. Israel, of course, the most mentioned nation in the Bible. Babylon, Medo-Persian Empire. You go on, there's other countries. Libya is mentioned in Ezekiel. Louv, yeah. On and on you could go. You cannot open the Bible and turn to the United States. You don't see it in there. But how could, to prove my point, how could you see the most free nation that's ever been, religious freedoms, military power, finance and wealth, the, I mean, on and on it goes. And what was Martin Luther King quoting when he was fighting for black rights in this country? Yes. the promised land. Yes. Right? Yes. One of the most famous speeches. The promised land, which to me harkened back to John Winthrop's A City on a Hill. City on the Hill. All of that. You've got this remarkable nation, yet I can't find it mentioned in the Bible, but therein might be our saving grace as well. I think that America is a miracle that, again, in God's infinite sovereign wisdom, used it and uses it for a lot of reasons. But the main thing was to be that cradle for the rebirth of the nation Israel. That said, I'm concerned about where we're going in the American pulpit. I'm not a real fan of much of America's pulpits because they're not teaching about God's promises to Israel. They're not. Mr. Ambassador, the Bible tells us in the New Testament from a Jew, mind you, from Saul of Tarsus, known as the Apostle Paul, that you Gentiles should love the God of Israel, Romans chapter 9, 10, and 11, that you guys should love the God of Israel so that the Jews who don't know God would be provoked to jealousy to know their own God from you. He told the Gentiles that. I believe that with all of my heart. We have a lot to learn. We have a lot to

32:49 What I'm saying is this. Why are not these Gentile churches reading the Bible and these pastors teaching their people the full counsel of God? If they did, it would shut down the progressive lunacy of replacement theology. Oh, the church is Israel. The Christian's the new Jew. Really? That is, in my opinion, it's a demonic doctrine. It's satanic. it allows for then anti-Semitism it allows for people to not recognize the borders of Israel the government of Israel and all of this just happens to just dovetail beautifully into the narrative or at least they use it the Islamic argument which is what we're dealing with in our world today I'd love for you to talk on this you know, I know, even though we've never talked together I've seen, I've been to Israel 23 times. I have seen areas that everything was fine and either Abbas or UN or PLO or the PA said, Israel, get out. And when Israel got out, they didn't maintain their crops. They didn't maintain their irrigation. They completely fell apart. And who came to their aid? Gaza. Yeah. Who came to their aid? People don't even know this. Israel came to their aid. I saw it with my own eyes.

34:13 Nobody believes this. Can you speak on this? Well, you know, I don't want to presume to be an expert on Christian theology. But I will say this. I cannot believe in a God that would turn his back on me because I can't, well, I can't believe in a God that would turn his back on you because I don't want to believe in a God that turns his back on me or you. Or, you know, if he turns his back on the Jewish people. Could turn his back. I mean if he negates the covenant that he has with the Jewish people, why can't tomorrow he negate the covenant he has with the Christian people? So I think we kind of should leave that discussion aside. The fact, and you know what? Maybe, maybe that had a voice up until May 14th, 1948. You know, it was hard to say that the Jews still had a place in God's world in Auschwitz.

35:12 It was easy to say, you know, where is God? The Nazis can get away with this. You've got that kind of brutality. You know, I could see somebody hard pressed to say the Jews are still at the apple of God's eye. But after 1948 and the history of Israel, I think you gotta stop and say, something's going on here. Something's going on here. We talked about the dry bones before, we talked about the prophecies of Isaiah. Something's going on here. And, you know, if you go, you talk about America creating a cradle of liberty for the entire world. Look at that one area of the world where democracy, where fairness, where equality hasn't made a dent other than Israel. You go look in the Middle East and just hasn't made a dent. and in the Abraham Accords, you start seeing that accommodationist element within Islam willing to say, we can go in that direction too.

36:10 Gradually, slowly, but we can go in that direction too. That's a civilizational change. You know, Pastor, I wear a kippah, right? I can walk down the street of Abu Dhabi and feel comfortable. I can't do that today in Paris. That's true. Okay. You'd be hard pressed. I can't do that today in London. That's a civilizational change. That's right. And the potential here for real enlightenment in the Middle East is there. And you see Saudi Arabia kind of in this internal tug of war. You know, one day they're going to make peace with us. The next day they're drawn back and so on. But it's going to come if we are successful. And I think we will be successful ultimately in removing this nemesis from the neck of the world, this Iranian revolution, which the 1979 Khomeini revolution in Iran is as big an issue as all the revolutions in history.

37:07 People don't appreciate this. This was an attempt to move Islam back into the Middle Ages and take Islam back into a confrontation with the West, with Judeo-Christian civilization. And what we're fighting now against Iran is not just to open up the Straits of Hormuz and not just to prevent them from having nuclear weapons. but fighting against the exportation of evil, which will ultimately encompass the world. We fought an ideology against the Soviet Union. It was an ideology we fought that was going to devour the entire world. Well, their intention is to do the same. Make no mistake about it. And if you don't stop it there, it's gonna come here, not only in the form of Sharia law in your back door. It's gonna be much worse. The whole story of Genesis, this is how the Bible opens. The Bible opens with discernment. God separates the waters above from the waters below. He separates the dry land from the wetland.

37:59 He separates the light from darkness. He separates plant life from animal life, animal life from man. Day from day. Day from day, right? Keep the Sabbath day. And he separates one tree from all the other trees. And what happens? Man loses discernment. That's right. When man loses the ability to discern, the world comes to him. comes disaster. Disaster. Exactly right. And we've lost so much of the West has lost the ability for discernment. They abandoned Genesis, there's no more discernment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And one of the things I have to do as ambassador is remind everybody that there is something that's true. Yeah. There is a truth. Israel was attacked on October 7th. Yes. After it left Gaza, because it was pressured, we gave up all of those, all of those agricultural centers that were developing flowers for Europe and food for Africa.

38:52 We turned it all over. We gave it to the Palestinian Authority. Within a year, the Palestinian Authority was annihilated. Hamas took over, which we said was going to happen. And they built up. Do you know how many tunnels of terror there were in Gaza? I've lost count of how many kilometers? 250, 300 something nuts? Well, I'll tell you. No, it's much more. Gaza, and this is really important for your viewers to understand because they've heard so much about Gaza. Gaza is 24 miles long. and eight miles wide. And underneath, 24 miles long and eight miles wide, is 350 miles of terror tunnel. They took all the money they received from Qatar and from other places around the world, billions of dollars, and built these terror tunnels from which, in which they stored missiles, arms, explosions, drones, and from which they entered Israel

39:50 Just slaughtered anybody in their wake babies women. They raped women as they were killing them Okay, they cut off people's heads. I saw I saw the 47 minute video and and and I just you know when when some Senators on the hill asked me, you know why we're being so aggressive why so what would you do? Tell me what you would do. That's a scary question to ask them. I'm afraid what they might say. Do you know that our well They never answered because you know that in fact when you actually look at the facts not feelings but facts yeah We had the lowest combatant to non-combatant death ratio in modern urban warfare I don't doubt that lower than Fallujah lower than Mosul and when you have real experts that went through like John Spencer who's lecturer at the academy at West Point.

40:44 He's number one expert in the world on urban warfare. When he went through, he said, there's never been a war fought with greater sense of morality than this. We fought with our hands tied behind our backs. And quite frankly, Pastor, my son, my oldest son, he'd be alive today. I just read this today. If we did, if we did what we're being accused of doing, he'd be alive. Because we didn't strap on population centers. That's right. Right? We sent infantry in. He was special ops, and he led the forces into Gaza from the first day. He fought for 15 days. On the 15th day of the war, it was just before the Sabbath. It was the Sabbath where we read in synagogue the portion of Abraham purchasing the cave of the Machpelah to bury Sarah. Well, he was looking for a tunnel. He was looking for his cave, right, as a child of Abraham. And this cave was laden with explosives.

41:37 It was booby-trapped. and he found it. It was 3.21 in the afternoon Friday and he wired the troops. He wired back to the command center. I found the tunnel and he said, Shabbat Shalom, have a peaceful Sabbath. And as soon as he said Shalom, Hamas set off a massive explosion that brought the house down on top of him and another three of his commandos. On the other side of the wall, there were another five of his commandos that lost their legs. And when people tell me, you know, we overreacted, right? We didn't put the civilians in front of these terrorists. They put them there. Nor did you put the weapons in the tunnels. And we didn't put the weapons in the tunnels, and we didn't dig those tunnels, and we can't live with jihadis on our border. And let me tell you something. If there was an issue like that in any other country in the world, there would be nothing left on the other side of the tent.

42:35 I mean, just imagine that having Laredo, Texas. What would be left of the other side of Mexico? They would have no compunctions whatsoever of just eliminating everything and setting a security zone that's hundreds of miles deep. What we have now in Gaza is a security zone. We didn't remove anybody from Gaza. If Egypt would let them leave, Egypt is keeping them there. They refuse to open the gates. Look at Egypt's wall up against the Palestinians. Nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about that. We're just, as a matter of fact, I was on a conference call yesterday with four senators. And I told them, I said, do you know how many, excuse me, Gazans have left over the past three years since October 7th through Israel? 50,000. 11,000 for medical purposes and another 40,000 who have visas. Anybody gives them a visa. You're so concerned about the Arabs of Gaza? Give them a visa.

43:29 Let them go to England. and let them, all these guys who represent, you know, the cause of the Palestinian people, they don't give a damn about the Palestinian people because if...