Authentic Living in Every Season

0:03 Hey, hey, welcome once again to In Good Faith. This is an exciting episode. Do you want to know why? Because it's the grand finale of the season? It's the grand finale of the season? Wow. You sounded grand finale-ed about that. I was like... Well, I was hesitant. I thought it was something else. That's why I was like, grand finale of the season? It is. It is. Why don't... Oh, it's such beautiful weather in Washington State. So I'm looking outside the window, guys. I don't want to brag, but the greater Seattle area this time of year is wild. It is the most beautiful. Ponderosa Pines, Douglas Fir's, Evergreen's. Like I started naming all the names. The shades of green in the state of Washington. We grew up here, so I don't think we realized how special it is. It is the Evergreen State. And it is just, ugh, thank you, God. I think when Jesus said, look at the trees, look at the sky.

0:59 Did he say, look at the trees? Did I make that up? Look at the birds. Look at the sky. I don't know if he said, look at the trees. I'm going to make up that he said, look at the trees. But he totally did. Like, insinuated, of course. I feel like he was, Washington State was where he was. Where he was picturing. Shane was commercial. If you want to visit a Washington State church home weekend. It's like this weekend. We should get sponsored by Washington State. as far as thinking church home weekend it's going that we're gonna have such a good time yeah we are you get to experience the hang out with us yeah the northwest which is just stunning so we're at the weston hotel yeah in billy i'm sure stuff for youth and kids and adults and i'm speaking twice you're speaking the lives should fade yeah oh that's right we are um yeah i'm sorry this is so unplanned but i think church home.org i don't know if you look up church on weekend it should take you oh my word i haven't been to our church website in probably seven years that's fine you have it's because you don't want a computer you've not been to really any websites other than like we go on your phone yeah anyway i am really oh it's on the app yeah um i'm really excited in this our finale episode of the season um We're going to share, drumroll please, our greatest lessons of our 20s and 30s and 40s.

2:24 We're not done with our 40s. I know. You just turned 46. Which rhymes with 40 sucks. Okay. That was a joke our friend made. But nobody on the text thread got it. Yeah. She was like, I didn't say it out loud. She's like, I guess if you have to explain a joke, it's not funny. So yeah, I just turned. So I'm now in officially in the second half of my 40s. I'm not. I've got something to say about life lessons in our 40s. We're also looked at and did some research about what are the typical life lessons that people learn in each decade. We're going to see how we lined up with those. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, because I do love is we've looked at our audience. Our audience is really an incredible blend of people in their 20s through 40s. You look to the demographics? You didn't tell me that. I got a lot of things I didn't tell you about.

3:18 I just did a lot of things. I think it's fun for people who are in their 20s to be able to think about looking forward to their life. And sometimes to get a perspective of, oh, maybe I haven't learned that yet, but I'm going to get there. You know, sometimes when I think about 20s, I think about, it's like you have to know everything right now. Yeah. And then I also think it's healthy for people in their 40s, people already, to look back and think, you know what? I've learned some stuff. Yeah, I love that. These last three decades haven't been useless. I'm getting very reflective already, so I'm trying to focus. Okay, yeah. Oh, man. I know when I say our 20s, so that would be from. By the way, there is a home being built right next door here through that window. so if you hear saws and hammers and nails uh it's not me also for those of you who are watching this is the shirt that judah got me for my birthday it is i'm a birthday tell i got you another shirt too and some yoga pants yoga shorts the yoga shorts really were a gift to myself no i'm really honest i opened them up and they're very unique yoga shorts you know i feel like we'll need to send to post a picture of them at some point.

4:31 They're like shorter. I didn't tell you what I opened up. I liked them. They were 50% old. Yeah, they're like shorter yoga shorts. But then most yoga shorts are just like straight. But these ones are like bunched together at the bottom. So they really did look a lot like a diaper. Have you tried one? I could try one. That's not fair. They're like elastic. So you don't know. They're like elastic at the bottom. Okay, women, tell me. what how many of us out there want a face of elastic like around our upper thighs that's like very few of us and i'm not one of the us have like lean mass on them most of us have a little bit of fat right there but the thought of like an elastic piece of elastic is this why we do this podcast this is why we do it she never was she never gonna tell me how she felt i'm very excited And they go with a cute little, like, I got her like a vintage Willie Nelson t-shirt.

5:31 Yeah. I mean, I will post when we launch this episode on my Instagram, I will post a photo of the shorts. Wait, you in the shorts? I don't know if you can do that. Oh, okay. A photo of the shorts. And I would love to know from my fellow females out there if you would open up those shorts and get excited about them. Or if you think things are going to look absolutely horrible on you. But I thank you for the thought. And I love that you saw it. Got you earrings too. Those were cool. Oh, yeah. I was going to put those on. Oh, I love that you thought those could be flattering onto any human. I think there was a reason they were on the 50% off rack.

6:14 And I did that. And I don't really care if things are on sale, but Chelsea really does. And so buying her things that are on sale means a lot to her. That's so weird. It doesn't mean a lot to me at all. I like double the price or full price. It makes me feel more loved. Double the price. Double, like you did. It's double. All right, so what are we talking about? I think I'm not around this topic. When I think of what I got you for your birthday that we don't have to get into right now and what you got me for my birthday, it's a little ironic and funny. I got you a very nice watch that was nice and that will increase in value. is you got me three pieces of clothing from that shit from the 50% off right okay well let's just hold on here for a second that's because if I got you like a nice watch or something like that you'd be like that is not necessary because I am holding out for a new ring for a 25th wedding yes you are sure so I would have been like wait use it use it for my ring for a new I mean it is fun though I've had the same ring for 20 times.

7:21 All right. Well, thanks for watching the grand finale. We love you guys. We so appreciate, you know, I'd like close it out. So life lesson in our 20s. When I think about our 20s, obviously that would have been from 1998 to 2008. Crazy. When you think through that season of life, obviously that was when we got married. We had two, our two sons in our 20s. we went from being the associate, well, you went from being a janitor to associate youth pastor to becoming youth pastors in our 20s. What stands out to you as far as like lessons learned in life or story or memory? What stands out to you about 20s? Actually, what stands out to me is a philosophy that I wish I would have known then. And it's really this idea that like, you're not on your way somewhere you're actually somewhere really significant in your 20s and I think I you know this I'm naturally a dreamer and so I spent a lot of time dreaming I mean last night I'm on Red Den looking at homes all over different places and so I'm you know 45 still a sort of dreamer yeah oh god it's money for her sheep so I don't know I do what you just did but I just said it so but kind of accurate yeah yeah kind of accurate I think yeah I just wish I would have felt you know I trust God with it all but you look back and you're like you were there you were somewhere so significant already even though you were you know much of my 20s was planning and preparing for what was to be and to come and who I was going to be when I grew up but you just realize you're in a lot of ways you're up and you're there and those precious days our friend sent us a voice memo their son and our son have been best friends since infancy and you know the little accents they had and how they would miss you miss their r's oh and you know you know now you look back and you're like i was i was i was in a

9:29 prime place i was at a prime place and i wish i would have known that um and then i look back in my 20s and the second thing that is prevalent is boy I didn't know what I didn't know me meaning there were things I thought I knew but I didn't really know them and now I know at 45 oh I don't really know anything about that and I don't know if I'm ever going to know anything about that but in your 20s you're trying to fake it till you make it you know so you're like oh I'm gonna like kind of act like I know this space and place and area of life and now at 45 you kind of just give up and you're like, oh, it's not really my thing. I don't really know. And in conversations now, I'm a little more like, oh yeah, I don't really know much about that. I've never heard of that. Never don't know how to pronounce that. But you know, in your twenties, you're just a little more like, man, I'm going to, oh yeah, well, isn't that, you know, and you, so that's interesting. Do you think in all of those two things go together that you feel like you're trying to arrive somewhere and so you're acting like, you know, all the things that you should know when Good point.

10:27 When you arrived? Yeah, I think so. I think those are really amazing lessons or thing, reflections on your 20s. What I think in my 20s, sometimes it's hard to go back to that same mindset, mental place, emotional state of actually being in our 20s. But the other day I was going through my parents' house. My mom is like me. Like me, they're a very sentimental. So they just have like a big bin of photos and memorabilia that's just like thrown in. I actually love it so much. It gave me so much freedom because that's how our stuff looks. Ours is just throwing a big bin of a cloud. Thank you. There's not a single organization to the photos in my cloud. But I was looking through it and I saw this booklet that you and I worked on in the 20s. I think it was I Need to Need Him. I Need to Need. And it was like a self-published.

11:19 And by self-published, it means like photocopied on the church, color photocopied. Yeah, I mean like self-self-published. Not like through Amazon self-publish. This is like 19, this is like 2009, like cut on the paper cutter of like the church office. I love a good paper cutter. But we had written this booklet and wrote it together. You preach sermons. I put it into writing. And I gave the copy to my mom and dad. And what I said in this, I must've been 22, probably 23 at this point. And what I wrote to them in the beginning was, well, guys, sorry, this isn't very good, but hope it helps you. And I read that. And I was so shocked by my lack of confidence and lack of belief in what God was doing in and through us, maybe, so to speak. And when I think about my 20s, I honestly think of that was, for me, the decade of growing in confidence. And I think so much of that honestly has to do with you.

12:14 And you're so good at encouragement and speaking life and belief and growing in confidence. so and don't you think the growing in thank you for saying that um i think the growing in confidence is the ability ironically to lean into what god has gifted you in in other words all the way back to my statement like understanding like hey i'm i'm never gonna really be great at this you know I'm never going to know probably a lot about this. And I'm kind of relinquishing, not really, not giving up or anything or being lazy, but just letting that go and focusing on my strengths and what I'm, what I'm really good at. And I think that is really is the practice of confident people. The practice of confident people is this ability to go, Hey, I'm going to, I'm going to give myself to the God given abilities and talents and gifts that I do have and not spend the rest of my life pining away on what I wish I could do and what I wish I had.

13:13 I still, we just got off the Zoom meeting, the business meeting, and I oftentimes still find myself going, man, I wish I had that gift. I wish I could think like that or process like that. But then, you know, you get off the call and you go, yeah, you know, but I enjoy being me and this is who I am and this is what it is. And I'm always probably going to be the guy that someone needs to remind, like you've probably talked long enough now and we get it, you know, or get a little nudge from Chalice under the table. Grabbing my leg. You can grab other things if you want. All right, Judith, you don't need to say that. But anyways, yeah, I saw you do that. I saw you, rather than trying to be all things to all men, being who you are and knowing what you're good at and knowing what you're not good at, knowing what you know and knowing what you don't know. Which is a fun, it does make life better in school. Oh, absolutely.

14:08 And by the way, it provides incredible space to value other people with other gifts and say like, bro, you're so good at that. I'm not. That's amazing. And that always makes people feel good. Makes for good relationship and connection. Absolutely. Because then you, instead of wishing you had all the gifts and talents yourself, you can realize what you have and then set willingly and happily and authentically celebrate those and other people. Oh, man, you are so good at small talk. Totally. Man, that's incredible. Okay, when we go into this room, you're going to handle a small talk, and I'm going to not, and that's going to be okay. Wait, that's exactly how this works. That's a nice example, except that it's not just an example. That's how our life works. That's how our life works. Okay, that was 20s. It's about 30s. So this was 2008 to 2018. We had grace.

15:00 I'm giving you the overview. We had grace when we were 30. we um you became preaching pastor i think when you were 29 but we took over the city church now church home from your parents when you had just turned 30 um my dad your dad in our early 30s started church camp church campus what we called it back then in los angeles in our 30s um what else happened in our 30s i moved from our bridal trail house to a condo in downtown with Bellevue. Yeah. My favorite house. You wrote Jesus is. I met one of the most special people in my life, Mr. Justin, when I was 30. That's what our kids call him. That was life transforming. Yeah. That was a special, special chapter for sure.

15:56 Oh, man. Let me check. Okay. That's hard to do. Wow. this is what happens to old people. And I'm just like, whoa, my brain. I will go first on this one. And you can fake. I'm going to steal some water from your family. Most people, just studies show, that most people set up boundaries, learn how to establish boundaries in their 20s. Wow. I would say we did not do that in that. No, I was like, what? Who does that in their 20s? That's incredible. I did that in my 40s. We're still working on aspects of it. I mean, I think boundaries are at least something we always work on. that by the way look at this cup this is a black new ranch you can't see it coffee mug which is where we grew up it's where we first fell in love it actually is in our 20s I think our motto was just say yes to everything say yes to every opportunity limited amount because we were working for the church of like churches we could go preach to but we would just pretty much say yes just believe that an ultradore meant that it was God.

17:03 We said yes to every church service we could imagine. You know, like the early youth pastors were like, the building's full, let's start another church. Let's start another service. And we ended up with a million services, which was fun. But I would say in our 30s, we learned the incredible value of saying no. And you can put that up under boundaries. But I'll never forget Pastor Frank Damasio. Late 30s is when I learned it. No, that's actually... Really?

17:34 Give me more credit? Yeah, I'm going to give you more credit. It's because it's been longer for that. Pastor Frank DiBozio said, you know, so often we think we're defined by our yes, but actually I found that in life we're defined way more by what we say no to. And saying no to opportunities, saying no to just because we could do something didn't mean we should do it. I'm obviously having three young children at that age in our 30s really helped to be like no sorry we need to put our kids to bed tonight or yeah the kids are going to be overwhelmed but truly learning how to say no um and say it with faith i would say say no it's not begrudgingly not like oh we've got to say no to this yeah but no hey we're going to say no to this because god has something different in store for us that's that's what i think of the lessons of 30s which apparently we were blind because most people in boundaries. I really feel like right now in my life, boundaries. Um, man, I'd love to speak to that for a moment because I think that totally overwhelmed and overshadowed any sensations that I was feeling from the thirties and memories and stuff because, um, setting boundaries has been, fulfilling but very painful particularly my personality and I don't want to just make this so myopic doesn't relate to everyone listening and watching and thank you so much for even listening to our musings and our tributaries and tangents but yeah I think what no one prepared me for was all of our yeses in our 20s, backed up with all of our noes in our 30s.

19:24 I think I really enjoyed making a lot of people happy in my 20s. Yeah. And I mean, by the time I'm, what are we, are we 30 when we assume kind of leading City Church? Yeah, we were 30. I was 31. You were at IMS in September, so. Yeah. I was 31 and you were just about to turn 31. And I think that was for a few years, for a few years there, right at the beginning of my 30s, I was still, yes, yes, yes, you know, meet with anybody in the church, meet with anything. And it was awesome. But no one really prepared me. I don't know how they would, to be exact. But that I was just told, you know, from Pastor Frank and others, like, you're going to need your no. And I was like, it started to become apparent. Like, I got to say no to at that point, there was a lot of opportunity for us to travel and communicate. and we started saying no and I just didn't know that my nose would make people feel some kind of way and it it has to this very day um boundaries for some people is rejection and when you said Yeah, when I set the boundary, and you can't control the recipient of your no and what they're going to feel.

20:46 But it's become apparent now, you know, many years out of our 30s now that those boundaries for a lot of people was a form of rejection. And also, the boundaries for some people was the end of connection. And it was like, okay, well, then you don't want to be my friend. And I think what I felt and you felt is like, no, we'd like to still have contact with you, but with definition and boundaries. And I think for a lot of people, particularly in our line of work, pastoring, preaching, leading community, that was okay. Because you have a boundary, that's it for us. And that was hard. It was also like, you know, we trust God with it now. But those were some painful weeks and months and years in our 30s. It was definitely harder on you than it was on me, personality-wise.

21:40 Because to me, in our 20s, when we came to that point, it was like we had decided what we were going to say yes to. And what we were saying yes to was, hey, we're building church home. We're going to make that a priority. Our family is a priority. And there's these key relationships that are going to be a priority. And we really did prioritize those in a way that, to me, gave such a freedom and a purpose when we were saying no to. So when people got in, you know, not annoyed, but when it didn't always get the best perception for me, it was like, yeah, but we know where we're going and what we're doing. And that was the brilliance of you in that, and I just want to simply say again what you just said, but that is that we decided we were going to set boundaries. Not so much, and I think this is how you got me to buy into boundaries, is we bought into the pre-planned things we were going to say no to and the pre-planned things we were going to say yes to so that I couldn't, even though I wanted to a lot, to be persuaded based on the source of the ask or the reach out or the connection.

22:47 But we stuck to our commitment on what was going to be the no and what was going to be the yes. Ironically, though, not ironically, but interestingly enough, it still made people take it personal. I found that when I set boundaries still to this day oftentimes people take it personal. Like I'm setting a boundary because I don't like them or because of something they've done or who they are. Sometimes that's the case of course but in a lot of ways there were these boundaries these no's that we said kind of mid to late 30s that were completely fueled because you and I had made a commitment. Here's what is going to be a no for us so that we can prioritize each other, Jesus, our family, building the community we were living in, that sort of thing. It's interesting. Yeah. And I still take it personally when somebody says no to me. When there's a boundary. Of course I do. Because, you know, there's a boundary. So I do think that's part of just being human, seeing all this. Yeah. But I think where I don't, I think where I failed though, is when people took it personally, I felt like I had done something wrong to them. I really did. Because you are such an empath and you feel what people are feeling so much and you, it's so important for you that everybody around is happy and feeling good.

24:04 So I was like, oh, I think I'm doing something wrong. And I honestly, I remember taking blame for people. I remember reconnecting with people and apologizing to them. And I look back now and I'm like, that, that was, that was unhealthy. That was not right for me to reconnect. And I would be swayed into reconnecting and meeting and I'm so sorry. Like I'm going to say manipulated and guilted into. Maybe sometimes. What I think about our 30s, I mean also I think we learned how to really handle loss in life. Obviously the loss of your dad was the first significant loss that either of us have really had to walk through. And also seeing God in that. Big time. Dealing with the disappointment of unanswered prayers and the way that we wanted them to be answered.

24:59 Yeah, and I wouldn't want to repeat any of that again. But I can see the beauty of God in the thing and the maturity through that in things that if we wouldn't have been, if we wouldn't have experienced those losses, we would not have been able to handle some of the other losses that we had. that we're experienced with grace and trust and faith. I agree. I, yeah.

25:29 There was a guy that posted, it's probably a week's into after my dad passing. And I don't know if this is accurate, but I think on Instagram, that was pretty much all I was posting. This was a year. It was the year anniversary. It was the year anniversary. On December 19th, every dad passing lady has posted, daddy, I love you, miss you, whatever. So it hadn't been a year. Yeah, and this guy, I don't remember his name or anything like that, but he was like, oh, Judah, get over it. We've all lost someone. And it hurt really, really bad. And obviously, I'm sure most people listen to be like, oh, that's so mean. Why would anybody? But I think as I've gotten further away, I think I was 31 when I heard that man say that. It was like, oh. Don't try to do ages and timelines. You were 33 when your dad passed away. I don't know why I do that. But anyways, let's get caught up on the details. The point is, I think in a way, when you talk about loss, I think in a way my brain actually probably despised that man's approach and what he said.

26:35 And that was inappropriate. And I would never have that kind of decorum. But everyone is experiencing loss and pain. And I think at 45 now, I think there's a lot of wide open heart and space in my mind to say that I've been traumatized. I've been hurt. I've been manipulated. I've been abandoned. I've been rejected. And I know there's all extreme cases and examples of all those things. But I am grateful for that chapter in our 30s. And I do feel like I can relate to humanity, but I'm not going to sit around and feel bad for myself because everyone is going through really difficult things in their own life. And that's a cool feeling now to be in our 40s and to look back on a lot of loss in our 30s, even a lot of loss in relationship and the change and transition of our church and its construct. Like, like it's, um, it's a cool feeling to be like, yeah.

27:40 And I feel a bonding and a camaraderie with humanity who, who goes through a lot. It's that verse. I think there's the one that was the Peters and one and one of the Corinthians that basically says, Hey, with the sake of comfort, when you've gone through something and you receive a measure of comfort that without saying comfort that you have received, go with comfort others. And I do, we were different in our thirties because of that. We needed comfort. comfort and so we received it and then it changed us i think you know in a good way to be able to comfort to others and not not become victims of loss but yeah not to ignore it but to humble ourselves to receive comfort and then be strengthened yeah to be able to give noise and we learned so by the way i think there's like a tractor next door right now moving dirt and so gravel and whatever so god god love you and help you if you can hear all that but um I think we learned I wish I could say we were that smart but we learned that oftentimes not all the time and both Chelsea and I do therapy and I think there is times where you got to just receive and accept it for yourself but if you give what you need if you give what you really need in life it does something to your brain and your soul and I think we learned like you know like you said we need comfort we're gonna go comfort others and encourage others and if i'm really honest i think we learned that in our 30s and it it's something that plays a significant role in my life every day yeah it's it's funny looking and reminiscing over 20s and 30s and lessons and almost seeing how things how things build and how man we couldn't have done our 30s without our 20s yeah without our teens and just i don't know seeing the hand of god in a really amazing way um when you think about 40s what anything what comes to mind about lessons obviously we're halfway through our 40s so maybe it's just a half of a lesson or a lesson um in progress i'll go first on this one please this is way more practical and oh my gosh it's

29:47 gonna make me feel like an old person but um i learned the value of health in in my 40s i would say and the incredible gift that a healthy body is and god has called us to so many things to do on this planet and they're actually all done through a physical body and really thinking on the incarnation of what when jesus came to earth when he came to fulfill his mission he came into a physical body to do it and that god has given us bodies real physical bodies with real tissue and cells and blood and nerves and healthy stick to fulfill that mission through and if i had anything in my 40s so far the first half that i could go back to my 20s and do over the take better care of your body because you can have all these dreams and all these things that you want to do but if you don't take care of your body it's just that it it's a limitation wow that would be my 40s lexon and i know that's like not nearly as um spiritual and deep and emotional as the others but that would be a blessing.

30:54 You have and you've had some wild headway and challenges with all that. Yeah, so well said. I think for me, you know what? I'm just going to summarize by saying, yeah, things aren't as big of a deal as you think they are. I think that's probably where I'm at at 45 40 to 45 it's like it'll be alright it'll work out that's really profound I still have you we got beautiful kids we got great friends you know what that was blown out of proportion I think is it proportionism is that a word that's a great way to say it but yeah and maybe that's akin to perspective perspective in proportion putting things in their proper place and going yeah we're all gonna die we're all gonna get older we're all gonna have to go to the dentist life is going to happen we're so blessed life's gonna happen yeah you're gonna get a toothache or an earache your kids are gonna be wonderful and your kids are going to be crazy.

32:20 Crazy. Don't overreact. You're going to keep some friends. You're going to lose some friends. You're going to make some new ones. You're going to make some new ones. You're going to be in environments where you know quite a bit compared to everyone else. And then you're going to be in environments where you know nothing compared to everyone else. And maybe I'm reflecting on what has happened to us and maybe that's not true of everyone, but I think in a sense it seems to be so. And I just think it's so interesting. I really, really do. And I think this is a lot of my 40s that literally eternity is no time, right? And the Bible says that God's put eternity in our hearts.

33:14 So in other words, I believe we are made for no time. Outside of time. Outside of time. Which is interesting because that accentuates and emphasizes now. Eternity is an interesting concept because maybe now is too tied to time, but bear with me. I think it's just now. It's always just now. there's no you know last week last hour this morning last night tomorrow it's just now and I think I think in a way things aren't a big a deal as they were because they're gone or it hasn't happened yet and I'm stressing about it and what you have is is eternity and I think eternity is just endless nowness.

34:09 And so all of this gets back to the yoga instructors and being present. Can that help us? Yeah. Just be, you know. You know, as you're saying that, I have thought of another lesson in my 40s. And that is that, man, it's not too late to dream again or to keep dreaming. You know, I think about in Acts chapter two that when the Holy Spirit comes, one of the language of the spirit is that young men will see visions and old men will dream dreams and it has been interesting for me getting a little bit older um feeling the pull to stop dreaming and not that that's not living in the now right but uh for me going back to school to get my master's degree started in my 40s and yes i'm going super slow um but that i mean it's not too late to take up a new dream or to add to it or to let the Holy Spirit work those visions and dreams on the, I mean, on the inside of us. But I think where that's natural in our twenties, there is a supernatural Holy Spirit element to that in our forties that, um, so good that, that I think if we give ourselves to the leading of the Holy Spirit, wow, that's a whole, like a whole phrase that need so much conversation.

35:27 But there's almost a new level of excitement and fulfillment because you realize how special that the now and these moments are. One set. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. It's fun to be in our 40s and to be realizing we're probably on the second half of life. Yeah, minus the probably. Yeah, okay, we are right. Why did I have to? Probably. Like, I actually don't want to live to 92. Right? we're on the second half of life but there it's a different kind of exciting but it is just as exciting if not more i agree it's the excitement i'm the first half one of the things we're excited about our second half of life being like i like this transition um is season three of it's a um we are season three is going to launch by the way september 30th which is a monday i love it good good and good fakers on monday um these next few weeks are going to be interesting for me speaking of taking care of my body um in this more than anything this kind of is something that is making me feel old is that i've come to a place in my health in my journey where i need to get a hysterectomy which i know i feel like such i feel like i remember my mom needed one and i remember that which by the way i was talking to kids about it i was like oh yeah i need to get hysterectomy in our cemetery it's like oh you're getting your uterus taken now because i'm like wow no you knew thanks hell dog i didn't know you were um but it's a it's going to lead me to better health yeah um but it is like a they say it's a six to eight week recovery and my family can crush it in four i think um so praise for me judah you can't make it about you everybody in the lord knows that your mom is going to come and take care of me because you're not the a caregiver um so yeah we're gonna take a break getting better to caregiving are actually you are getting so much better um as i heal and recover from that so please i would love prayers yeah um for that and i i still not the surgery date because i need to get a biopsy done between

37:33 now and then but anyway way too many details yeah i think and i think if we're really honest to season two sometimes has been like kind of half-baked a little bit um in in that there's just been a lot going on and and it even chelsea's energy levels and strength and that sort of thing has been not at 100 and so if we're really honest i think season two um we have never been more excited about what in good faith could do to add value perspective and hopefully some level of connection, humor to your life. But I think season three, we're very anticipatory of what it can be and taking it to the next level and really serving you and enjoying this journey and having more guests on, which is always seems to be tons of response from everyone. But at the same time, Chelsea and I continue to allow this podcast in a lot of ways to BS2 processing life. So So this is helpful for us too.

38:35 Let's not, you get it twisted. This podcast has helped us. Yeah, helped us so much. And I have some things in my heart brewing that I'm excited to talk about as we get to season three. Three, yeah. I forgot what number it was. That's where my friends end up. But yeah, really excited for that. And it's going to be good. It's going to be good. So close us out in prayer, prayer for everybody over these next few weeks of summer. Yeah. Take this summer, take these moments, enjoy your life, live in the now. Here's our grand finale exhortation, enjoy the now. Spend time with your loved ones, develop relationships. Don't take these weeks of this summer for granted. Be intentional with them. Really let them be very special for you. You're never going to have it again. That's right. All right, let's talk to God. God, thank you for the opportunity to do this podcast. realize there could be people watching who are not as familiar with talking to you.

39:38 Pray this moment that you'd meet them wherever they are right now in the whole wide world. All of this is for nothing if it's not causing us more connection in a way with you and more realization of who you are. You are grand and you are great and you are beautiful and you are generous and you are wonderful. And we love you. I can only imagine what people are facing right now and the pain that they're feeling right now. God, even in our country, I ask for peace. I ask for healing. I ask for protection and provision for our friends all over the world. be near to them you said you are near to the broken aren't it be near to those whose hearts feel shattered and broken into pieces be near we love you only because you first loved us and showed yourself to us continue to do that for your children around the world today be with us now and help Chalice and I as we prepare for season three and as she gets more healthy in her body and her energy levels god thank you for all that's ahead we love you amen amen amen thanks for watching guys